Game Theory: Persona's LOST Shadow... FOUND! (Persona 4)

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  • Published on:  Sunday, April 8, 2018
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    Persona 5 took critics and gamers by storm - but what about the rest of the series? Persona 4 was an AMAZING game and, looking back at it, I had one BIG QUESTION. Where is our Shadow? The main character that you play as is the only one to not have a Shadow - EXCEPT that they DO! Today Theorists, I am going to expose the BIGGEST SECRET of the Persona series - YOUR SHADOW!!

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  • The Game Theorists

     (Apr 9, 2018)

    I'm sorry. I screwed up with this one. In a few facts and details, certainly, but also in ways that I didn't expect when writing it. And I don't want things to be taken the wrong way, so please, let me clarify:First, the intro was not intended to make fun of or belittle the fanbase of Persona in any way, and I'm sorry if it came across as mean spirited. Being protective of a franchise isn't a bad thing. I know from doing episodes on franchises like Dark Souls that there are just fanbases who are more...


     (2 days ago)

    Theres also other acceptions that let you enter the velvet room.

  • TaloNZillA Barrett

     (Dec 9, 2018)

    Persona 4 face your fearsPersona 5 *BLEED YOUR FACE OFF UNTIL IT ARRIVES*

  • Slammer Ex

     (Aug 26, 2018)

    Yu doesn't have a Shadow because he doesn't have anything to hideThey said that in the game

  • Conall Doherty

     (6 days ago)

    +POP CORN congrats you made a very obvious but alright joke 7/10

  • ze noobs

     (May 15, 2019)

    +Lisa Rittmeyer which means either a person can lose his persona like namatame, or still needs to certain requirement of being self-aware to have a persona

  • DanCP

     (Sep 22, 2018)


  • ZBreezee 2018

     (Apr 30, 2019)

    Game Theory: Is Morgana a dog

  • Killing tale Alphys

     (Apr 23, 2019)

    Is he plague doctor?

  • TrainerHoward

     (Jun 15, 2018)

    You DO realize that this theory is immediately shot down by an in-game plot point explaining why Yu had a Persona, right...?

  • Jon Doe

     (2 days ago)

    +ze noobs Adachi didn't so much accept his Shadow as he fully embraced it. He never put any effort to try and control his own negative side, as he was completely willing to let himself and everyone in the world become Shadows and give in to their most basic instinct and inhibitions. Therefore he basically completely merged with his own Shadow and thus during your encounter he could both use a corrupted version of Izanagi and channel his Shadow as if they were one and the same, before he was consumed by...

  • ze noobs

     (2 days ago)

    +Jon Doe if that is the case, would u mind explaining what happened to adachi?

  • SuperButterBuns

     (Apr 8, 2018)

    Welp, this was bound to happen sooner or later :p

  • Alexander Demuth

     (3 days ago)


  • Ethan Evans

     (5 days ago)

    How did I know that I’d find Buns in the comment section of a persona vid?

  • TheKewlPerson

     (Feb 2, 2019)

    Have you not played the game? It literally is said in the game that Izanami awakened Yu's persona by shaking his hand, thus he never had to face his shadow.

  • Jon Doe

     (2 days ago)

    +Dee.god5 Both of them channeled their inner rejected feelings during those encounters, shown by them having the trademark yellow eyes of a Shadow, but they were never completely overtaken or fell a victim to them, since 1) their Shadow never manifested as a twisted monstrosity that would reveal and reflect their underlying psyche and 2) it didn't confront them or attempt to kill or assault them, like every other Shadow of an individual you'd encounter up till then had done. Shadow momentarily manifest...

  • narwhalls narwhal

     (Aug 18, 2018)

    Igor and his asistant ELIZABETH

  • Haruhi Suzumiya

     (May 15, 2019)

    +Sage Hull in persona 3 if I'm not mistaken.

  • Ren Amamiya

     (May 2, 2019)

    correction matpat: Margaret

  • Jimmy KrabKlaw

     (Sep 4, 2018)

    Mat Pat this is really off base. It's like you read the cliff notes of the game and took a wild guess. The game flat out explains that Teddie is his own character. Also the protagonist already had his persona before entering the tv realm, if Teddie were his shadow Teddie would be his persona. A theory and a guess are two different things. A theory is something that can stand up to testing and be scrutinized. This is just a wild guess. If you cover an RPG at least know the ins and outs of the narrative.

  • PerfectChaos177

     (Apr 24, 2019)

    +crazymonkey156 Well, persona always has social links that automatically rank up because of story significance. and the part where only people who are bound by a contract can enter is BS too bc there isnt THREE velvet rooms, there is only ONE velvet room, the appearance changes depending on the protags heart

  • crazymonkey156

     (Apr 15, 2019)

    +Lisa Rittmeyer even so 2 out of 3 of them still had Personas of their own. Namatame never had one, he could only enter the TV world

  • Black Raison D´etre

     (Jun 5, 2018)

    I remember that Igor said “this place (velvet room) is a place only for people who’s ego can be nurtured, simple shadows have no place here”. This dialogue completely debunks this theory, I’m surprised you overlooked this.

  • Haruhi Suzumiya

     (May 15, 2019)

    +OXOTNHK aka D3ath Patr0l just like the answer has a toaster android girl become a wild card.

  • jay quickblade

     (Apr 30, 2019)

    +OXOTNHK aka D3ath Patr0l yeah i mean it is a logical conclusion